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StackerKen 08-30-2009 12:18 PM

Storing drinking Water
 
Can some of you give me some Ideas (or web links)
on how to cheaply store my own well water?
So I don't have to use my generator to pump it 500 feet out of the ground when the power goes out in the SHTF.

We don't have a tank, but we do have a pond and a hot tub.
But that would require boiling.

Could I drop a pre 64 dime in a rinsed out gallon milk jug full of water to keep it fresh ?
I have been meaning to try this to see if it works
anyone try it?

any Ideas and web links would be appreciated.
Thank you.

StackerKen 08-30-2009 12:26 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
duh... I found some on the web already....lol

This seems to be a good one
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/safewater/

But I would still like to hear from you guys

Canadian-guerilla 08-30-2009 12:33 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
when you're talking about storing water

are you talking about storing water for a long time or just making it safe to drink, or both ?

StackerKen 08-30-2009 12:37 PM

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Both actually,
long term storage One or two years maybe
I would rather not have to add bleach to it to make it last, but I guess I could do that.
does the bleach taste go away?



Im gonna refill and keep the hot tub water as clean as I can with small amounts of clorine
(we don't use it anyway)
Or could I use something else to keep it fresh?

ruprick 08-30-2009 12:45 PM

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Find some plastic 55 gal drums.....sometimes there are food producting companies in your area that use these for liquids.....get them cheap/free. Also look for companies that sell containesr...buy new. I have in mind 55 gal blue plastic...I've even seen these at some fast food stores....

Fille with water...add chlorine bleach.

StackerKen 08-30-2009 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1894214)


Fille with water...add chlorine bleach.

will the water taste like bleach?
will the bleach taste go away?

Canadian-guerilla 08-30-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
have you thought about Calcium Hypochlorite ?

http://www.survivaltopics.com/surviv...sinfect-water/


i haven't tried this myself
but going by the mixing instructions, 1 lb could last a loooooooong time

plus i would think, after TSHTF, CH ( pool shock ) may be laying around more readily available than bleach/chlorine

ruprick 08-30-2009 12:53 PM

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Might have a very small taste of chlorine.....lots of info on the Web for quanitity of bleach to add....you will not need much as you are starting with fresh clean water....I've even shopped the bleach at times and stored for well over a year at a remote location...no issues - water was just fine.....but, I'd add bleach if i were storing long term.

Ever SHTF prep should have a crap load of bleach...get it now while it is cheap.....also pool "Shock" - concentrated chlorine is a good way to go. Get some for the prep hoard. You can sanitize field water with bleach.

bigbuber 08-30-2009 01:14 PM

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About 2 years ago I bought a water filter from The Ready Store. At the time I had an above ground pool with chlorine in it and planned to use it as a source of drinking water. The Ready Store said that one filter cartridge should be able to filter about 250-500 gallons of pool water to remove the chlorine and use it for drinking water.

However, we recently tore down the pool because it was becoming an eye sore. So, I too am interested in an emergency water supply. I was thinking of buying one of those heavy duty 30-32 gallon capacity pliable plastic garbage cans (I believe they are made by Rubbermaid) and line it with a 3-4 thick mil contractor garbage bag. I would store it inside my shed. My concern is in the winter if it got to about zero for a few days would it hold up without damaging the garbage can. The garbage cans having a tapered shape may prevent ice problems. Any thoughts??

Also, I have a 50 gallon heavy duty plastic drum that I�ve considered filling up with water for strictly flushing the commode only in a SHTF scenario. I probably would store it outside because the weight would probably exceed the shed flooring capacity. To get around freezing weather I would add some anti-freeze. I plan on buying an inexpensive hand pump to retrieve the water in it. Comments?

Meliorist 08-30-2009 01:36 PM

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Apparently hand pumps are limited to 260-360ft well depth so that's out. Why not a windmill or solar powered pump system?

StackerKen 08-30-2009 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Meliorist (Post 1894292)
Apparently hand pumps are limited to 260-360ft well depth so that's out. Why not a windmill or solar powered pump system?

the well pump is 220v
I don't know but I don't think wind or solar is feasible.

I do plan on making my own solar panels soon though.

scyth 08-30-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
Bladder tanks are also an option.......

http://www.interstateproducts.com/all_tanks.htm#sizecap

scyth

StackerKen 08-30-2009 02:11 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
after thinking it over...for a whole hour.

I think Im gonna stick to my original plan and use the treated hot tub water for emergency drinking water.

Along with a couple dozen lightly treated one gallon jugs stored in the garage.

And Im gonna use the Pond water for toilet flushing (thanks bigbuber)

But any and all suggestions and Ideas are appreciated

CrufflerJJ 08-30-2009 02:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1894227)
Might have a very small taste of chlorine.....lots of info on the Web for quanitity of bleach to add....you will not need much as you are starting with fresh clean water....I've even shopped the bleach at times and stored for well over a year at a remote location...no issues - water was just fine.....but, I'd add bleach if i were storing long term.

Ever SHTF prep should have a crap load of bleach...get it now while it is cheap.....also pool "Shock" - concentrated chlorine is a good way to go. Get some for the prep hoard. You can sanitize field water with bleach.

I'd much rather taste chlorine in my water than NO water at all.

The problem with liquid bleach is the short shelf life. The dry calcium hypochlorite has a much longer shelf life (just store it away from oils/flammable liquids to avoid any "excitement").

j-son 08-30-2009 02:44 PM

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use this stuff

http://www.campingsurvival.com/staboxwatpur.html

sunshine05 08-30-2009 02:46 PM

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We have well water too and I'm hoping we will be able to continue to use it. But we also have a rain barrel. If something happens with the well I'm planning to use that and run it through my berkey filter.

gbgunner 08-30-2009 02:51 PM

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I use old containers. Several empty bleach bottles. A couple of 5 gallon food service pails with lids, and even a couple Costco size laundry detergent jugs.

The detergent jugs are rinsed out well but I don't plan on using those for drinking water. They'll be used for cleaning/washing water.

Silver001 08-30-2009 02:51 PM

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Be careful using garbage bags some have pesticides in them, same with some garbage cans.

StackerKen 08-30-2009 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gbgunner (Post 1894404)

The detergent jugs are rinsed out well but I don't plan on using those for drinking water. They'll be used for cleaning/washing water.

Great Idea!
Beats putting those containers in a landfill

Twisted Avatar 08-30-2009 03:10 PM

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Very good site for 55 gal drums,related supplies and very helpful people to talk to

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/rain-barrel.html

StackerKen 08-30-2009 03:16 PM

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thanks TA
free shipping too!

medfojo 08-30-2009 03:18 PM

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Don't use milk jugs. They might be ok for waste water like flushing but not for drinking.

Twisted Avatar 08-30-2009 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by medfojo (Post 1894438)
Don't use milk jugs. They might be ok for waste water like flushing but not for drinking.

I agree

Even if kept in a cool dark place....... the plastic will eventually leech into the water.


T

StackerKen 08-30-2009 04:01 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by medfojo (Post 1894438)
Don't use milk jugs. They might be ok for waste water like flushing but not for drinking.

ok thanks.
I'll go with the blue 55 GALLON FDA JUICE BARREL with faucet

MKS 08-30-2009 04:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1894426)
Very good site for 55 gal drums,related supplies and very helpful people to talk to

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/rain-barrel.html

Those things are expensive!!!

A buddy of mine called the local Pepsi distributor and asked if we could buy some of the 55 gal. drums they use to store/ship their syrups in. They let us have them for five bucks a drum!

All I had to do was wash the syrup out and fill them up. I didn't get the smell completely out, so there was still the odor of Mountain Dew, Pepsi or whatever it held, but after rotating the water once after about a year of storage the smell was notably weaker. I think once I rotate again the smell will probably be gone.

By the way these are either blue or white drums. I got 5 of them for 25 dollars.

Mike

Ag_man 08-30-2009 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scyth (Post 1894334)
Bladder tanks are also an option.......

http://www.interstateproducts.com/all_tanks.htm#sizecap

scyth

This is the route that I went with. IMO, bladder tanks are the best option. More expensive than 55 gallon barrels, I know, but much easier to store empty and fill when needed.

http://www.newdavincis.com/watersafe...del-p-296.html

Publico, Pro Se 08-30-2009 05:59 PM

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Check craigslist. I see a local guy selling 30, 55, and 275 gallon containers all the time. I think he gets them from a local supermarket chain's main warehouse where they bake a lot of stuff for their stores. They contained pie filling, veggie oil and the alike.

StackerKen 08-30-2009 06:01 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
thanks gonna do that right now

TechGuy 08-30-2009 06:27 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
Check with your local DrPepper distributor for used 55 gallon drums.

I have several that used to contain DrPepper Syrup.

TTAZZMAN 08-30-2009 11:22 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
clorinate to purify then carbon filter to remove the clorine........this is how we set up food plants that require non-clorinated water for their products


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bigbuber 08-30-2009 11:32 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
What about using one of those Brita filters for drining water to remove the chlorine? It's got charcoal in it.

Binder 08-31-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by traderken (Post 1894346)
after thinking it over...for a whole hour.

I think Im gonna stick to my original plan and use the treated hot tub water for emergency drinking water.

Along with a couple dozen lightly treated one gallon jugs stored in the garage.

Think a little longer Ken. You probably already have all the drinking water you need for at least a month wtshtf:

TTAZZMAN 08-31-2009 12:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbuber (Post 1895265)
What about using one of those Brita filters for drining water to remove the chlorine? It's got charcoal in it.

i have no clue on brita's stuff.....

i know we use carbon beds to remove the clorine from city water

also ...do RO water and UV water.....but that doesnt remove clorine

Real Money Now 08-31-2009 03:02 AM

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Think a little longer Ken. You probably already have all the drinking water you need for at least a month wtshtf:

And don't forget the TOP (tank) of the toilet:

Txkstew 08-31-2009 11:29 AM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1894426)
Very good site for 55 gal drums,related supplies and very helpful people to talk to

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/rain-barrel.html

Baytec is located in Texas, so if you live here like me, you'll have to pay sales tax. I know, I just ordered a 60 gal Aqua II from them for $128 incl. tax, delivered free. They didn't show the tax until the order was confirmed. I usually check where a company is located so I can factor in sale tax or not. I'd like to get at least one more.

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/60galwaterbag.html

Wal*Mart has clear plastic 5 gal jugs w/handle, for the type of water dispensers that you have to turn the jug upside down. $6.50 in the plumbing section. I have six of them that I fill with well water and keep in a dark closet. I've never had anything grow inside them. I just pour them out every six months of so, and refill.

theberkeyguy 08-31-2009 12:14 PM

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I should have mentioned the Aquatank 30, 60 or 150 gallon tanks, as they are great for storing water for long term and for transporting water. We have known the owner of the company for over 3 years, and do sell the Aquatanks on our site.

theberkeyguy

Txkstew 09-10-2009 01:02 PM

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Well Baytec is burning my ass right now. It's been two weeks, and no Aquatank II yet. They sent a shipping invoice a week ago saying Sept 4 as the ship date. So today, I called them up and got the shipping department guy, who looks my order up, and it was back ordered. He did say it's in transit, from New York State, but no tracking number. I mean, first I get hit with sales tax, but I figured next day delivery from UPS, since they are only 150 miles away. Now it was back ordered, and it has to ship half way across the country. What really chaps me, is them selling it to me, when it wasn't in stock, and no email after the fact that it would be delayed. I've been buying tons of stuff off the Internet the last few years, and this is the first time to get jerked around like this. Oh well, I'll get over it.

theberkeyguy 09-10-2009 03:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Txkstew (Post 1913990)
Well Baytec is burning my ass right now. It's been two weeks, and no Aquatank II yet. They sent a shipping invoice a week ago saying Sept 4 as the ship date. So today, I called them up and got the shipping department guy, who looks my order up, and it was back ordered. He did say it's in transit, from New York State, but no tracking number. I mean, first I get hit with sales tax, but I figured next day delivery from UPS, since they are only 150 miles away. Now it was back ordered, and it has to ship half way across the country. What really chaps me, is them selling it to me, when it wasn't in stock, and no email after the fact that it would be delayed. I've been buying tons of stuff off the Internet the last few years, and this is the first time to get jerked around like this. Oh well, I'll get over it.

From what i have heard, baytec is a good company, but if you need an aquatank quicker, pick one up here http://directive21.com/aquatank.html

You also may get a better price.

theberkeyguy

Ag_man 09-10-2009 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Money Now (Post 1895444)
And don't forget the TOP (tank) of the toilet:

:4_1_72: That's OK, as long as no one has pulled an "upper decker" on you.

King_Squais 09-13-2009 03:19 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MKS (Post 1894506)
Those things are expensive!!!

A buddy of mine called the local Pepsi distributor and asked if we could buy some of the 55 gal. drums they use to store/ship their syrups in. They let us have them for five bucks a drum!

All I had to do was wash the syrup out and fill them up. I didn't get the smell completely out, so there was still the odor of Mountain Dew, Pepsi or whatever it held, but after rotating the water once after about a year of storage the smell was notably weaker. I think once I rotate again the smell will probably be gone.

By the way these are either blue or white drums. I got 5 of them for 25 dollars.

Mike

Should have kept the syrup for some survival pepsi.

StackerKen 09-13-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Storing drinking Water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Binder (Post 1895317)
Think a little longer Ken. You probably already have all the drinking water you need for at least a month wtshtf:

we also have a 40gal. Bladder tank at the well
like this one

http://www.inspect-ny.com/plumbing/W...er028-DFss.jpg

mayhem 09-13-2009 09:10 PM

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Bought 2, 30 gallon FG drums new 4 years ago.

Took a 5 gallon bucket, put a Black Berkey filter in the middle of it. Stuck it into the bung hole and just filled the 30gal up. Topped them off with a quart of CS.

Just had a water sample tested last month, perfect, no smell or taste.

Berkeyguy those bladders are very interesting. Let me think on it for a few days.


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